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An Excellent Example of Being Human | Leadership | Wealth | Impact with Tory Dube

Jun 18, 2019

Laura McKowen is one of the foremost voices in the modern recovery movement, having helped thousands of people reframe addiction and transform their lives through her writing, teaching, and speaking.


She writes an award-winning blog, hosted the iTunes Top 100 HOME podcast, and currently hosts Spiritualish, a show that provides an irreverent take on self-development and spirituality. She has been featured in WebMD, New York Post, Huffington Post, the TODAY show, and more.


Laura has an MBA from Babson College and spent 15 years in advertising, managing million-dollar accounts for Fortune 100 companies before transitioning to writing and teaching. She’s the founder of The Bigger Yes and We Are the Luckiest, online programs for personal development and sobriety. She teaches workshops and retreats all over the United States.

Her first book, We Are The Luckiest: The Unexpected Joy of a Sober Life is forthcoming in January 2020.


Even if alcohol is not an area you struggle with, you will benefit immensely from our conversation. From great book recommendations, to powerful quotes, to moving poems, everyone will get something out of Laura’s insights and well-earned wisdom. “Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.” This conversation will encourage you to continue to seek out your best life.


Highlights of our conversation:

1:24 - Jen Gottlieb is a tear whisperer

2:58 - Getting to know Laura

5:51 - Laura experiences sobriety for the first time during her pregnancy

9:53 - Single parenting to a DUI and night in jail

12:23 - Why ignoring or avoiding your potential could destroy you

15:04 - Your pain is not a problem, it's an invitation to something bigger.

18:25 - The one benefit of hell

23:47 - Tory's decade-long conspiracy belief gets debunked

25:39 - Should everyone be sober?

28:32 - Am I limiting my potential with a glass of wine and binging Netflix?

31:04 - What does “We are the luckiest” mean?

35:23 - It's not about alcohol, it's about whatever gets you hooked. And this can help you.

37:05 - Tory asks Laura a deeply vulnerable question

39:11 - What does spiritualish mean?

41:02 - What does a daily practice with God look like?

44:46 - The value and power of prayer

46:13 - Laura answers the jar of LOLz


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Interview: Laura McKowen

Theme music: Superstar by Gyom -

Podcast edited and mixed by Andrew Geary - andrew [at]